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Old 04-21-2009, 06:29 AM   #1
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Post SUKHOI SU-47 vs. LOCKHEED F/A-22

Which is better?
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:38 AM   #2
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Well, hard to say since the SU-47 is an experimental test bed, and only one has been built, from what I know. If it did go into production, I'd say it would give the F/A-22 a good fight, maybe even win, since the 22 is much older, and is now being phased out.

Now, if you want to compare it to the F-35........hands down the F-35!
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:59 AM   #3
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What you crazy the F-22 is better than F-35 and more expensive... the F-35 will be sold UK and allies not the F-22
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What you crazy the F-22 is better than F-35 and more expensive... the F-35 will be sold UK and allies not the F-22
I was talkin about the SU-47 compared to the F-35 and/or the F-22.
Not the F-22 against the F-35! LOL

My problem with the F-22 and F-35, they don't seem to carry much weight in arms. IMO, they need more arms on board.

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-3168.html

The SU-47, probably won't be a forward swept wing, because of the hazards of the design.

http://tech.military.com/equipment/v...7)-berkut.html
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:27 AM   #5
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The SU-47 was/is a Russian x plane. Mainly to test composites and fly-by-wire.
This comparison is a non starter. You might as well ask which one is better at making cookies.
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I wonder how good the F22 will be when the dollar reaches zero...
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Well, hard to say since the SU-47 is an experimental test bed, and only one has been built, from what I know. If it did go into production, I'd say it would give the F/A-22 a good fight, maybe even win, since the 22 is much older, and is now being phased out.

Now, if you want to compare it to the F-35........hands down the F-35!
It's not being "phased out". Real production for active squadrons has only been going on for a couple of years. The F 35 is designed as a "strike fighter" not an "air superiority" aircraft like the F 22. Kill ratios in al testing environments (sometimes up to 1 v 8-9) has always been in the favor of the F 22.

The only thing that the Su 47 would bring to the table is a better missile. The AA-11 Archer is able to be initially guided by the pilots helmet mounted sight. The all-aspect IR seeker allows for engagements in high G fights where the off-boresight capability always gives has the advantage. America's AIM-9L/M Sidewinder must have the aircrafts nose pointed toward the enemy....
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It's not being "phased out". Real production for active squadrons has only been going on for a couple of years. The F 35 is designed as a "strike fighter" not an "air superiority" aircraft like the F 22. Kill ratios in al testing environments (sometimes up to 1 v 8-9) has always been in the favor of the F 22.

The only thing that the Su 47 would bring to the table is a better missile. The AA-11 Archer is able to be initially guided by the pilots helmet mounted sight. The all-aspect IR seeker allows for engagements in high G fights where the off-boresight capability always gives has the advantage. America's AIM-9L/M Sidewinder must have the aircrafts nose pointed toward the enemy....
Wow didn't know that that's good technologyfrom Russia
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T-38 is better than F-22

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There is severe question as to the legitimacy of that source... and besides, I don't know if you are aware, but planes get shot down. The F-117 got shot down once, but even so it has had one of the most successful combat records of any plane ever built.

The Su-47 is not an operational platform yet, other than the nifty looking test version they built. And for the record, the Raptor is getting helmet guided missiles too.
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