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Old 03-23-2012, 10:45 PM   #1
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Default The Christians in Syria

US said Saddam was a dictator and activated a war on Iraq. As a result, Islamic extremists control Iraq and Iraq Christian suffered severe persecution. They escaped to Syria. Now US says Assad is a dictator and ..... Poor Christians, where will they go this time?
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Quote, "The price of regime change
By David Warren, Ottawa Citizen

There are millions of Christians in Syria, who probably have the Russians and Chinese to thank that they may live there a little longer. The Security Council vetoes, a fortnight ago, on a resolution calling upon Syria's dictator to step down, and supporting an Arab-sponsored plan to "end the violence," put paid to any immediate prospect of western intervention.

The outrage expressed by Hillary Clinton, William Hague, and other western foreign ministers, probably concealed a little relief, for the vetoes provided the excuse they needed to avoid the issue, while continuing to posture about "humanitarianism" and "democracy."
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Christians were as common in Syria as in Egypt, before their numbers were immensely swelled by refugees from Iraq - well over a million fleeing up the Euphrates River valley, from anti-Christian persecution by Iraq's Islamists. By now, there could be more than four million Christians within Syria's borders.

When the Assad regime falls, it will be open season on them, on the Alawites, and all the other minorities. Granted, Assad is a monster who has earned an ugly fate. But at what expense should we indulge the fleeting satisfaction of deposing him?


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Old 03-26-2012, 11:24 PM   #2
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Default ending religious war happens

Excuse me if I am Captain Obvious... When you end religion.

Political wars are a similar story.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:41 AM   #3
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The US bends over backwards to help Muslim people's in order to avoid being labeled anti-Islamic. Unfortunately they have done so at the expense of becoming anti-Christian.
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:14 PM   #4
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Iraq: Worse for Christians Now Than under Saddam Hussein

Michael Ireland, Chief Correspondent, ASSIST News Service
Tuesday, July 01, 2008

July 2, 2008

BAGHDAD (ANS) -- The Reverend Canon Andrew White, affectionately known as The Vicar of Baghdad, says the situation for Christians in Iraq is "clearly worse" than under the Saddam Hussein regime, toppled by US and Coalition forces in 2003.

In a segment of the CBS news program 60 Minutes, originally broadcast on Dec. 2, 2007, updated June 26 and aired on June 29, 2008, correspondent Scott Pelley asked Canon White: "You were here during Saddam’s reign. And now after. Which was better? Which was worse?"

"The situation now is clearly worse” than under Saddam, White replied.

"There’s no comparison between Iraq now and then," he told Pelley. "Things are the most difficult they have ever been for Christians. Probably ever in history. They’ve never known it like now."

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Old 04-07-2012, 09:43 PM   #5
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Can't they arm themselves?? Im sure they can get weapons off the black market there. Just arm themselves, tell whoever attacks you attack you so you seem like a victim, then go wipe them out along with their whole family.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:58 AM   #6
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Can't they arm themselves?? Im sure they can get weapons off the black market there. Just arm themselves, tell whoever attacks you attack you so you seem like a victim, then go wipe them out along with their whole family.
Naive. To a government backed by US occupation army?

There were churches in Afghan before US invasion. None is left 10 years after US occupied Afghan. Be noticed that this news indirectly(may be the news agency is afraid of being called "unpatriot"?) related this to US foreign policy.

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Not a Single Christian Church Left in Afghanistan, Says State Department

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(CNSNews.com) -- There is not a single, public Christian church left in Afghanistan, according to the U.S. State Department.

This reflects the state of religious freedom in that country ten years after the United States first invaded it and overthrew its Islamist Taliban regime.

In the intervening decade, U.S. taxpayers have spent $440 billion to support Afghanistan's new government and more than 1,700 U.S. military personnel have died serving in that country.

The last public Christian church in Afghanistan was razed in March 2010, according to the State Department's latest International Religious Freedom Report.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:40 PM   #7
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Syrian Christians worry about life after Bashar Assad

They fear civil war and revenge attacks if President Bashar Assad falls, an anxiety fed by the sectarian violence seen in Egypt and Iraq.

Ignatius IV, patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, described Syria as an oasis of religious tolerance where Christians can worship freely, build sanctuaries and run schools, activities that are restricted by varying degrees in a number of Middle Eastern countries.

Christian clerics are frequently shown on television taking part in joint prayer services with their Muslim counterparts. The defense minister is a Christian, as are other senior members of the government and security forces.

"Wherever you go, you find Christians and Muslims," said the patriarch, who has a photograph of himself with Assad displayed on his office wall. "There is no distinction."

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Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media
Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war

Jonathan Steele guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 17 January 2012

The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria's borders.

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First of all, most of this is pure speculation. Just another of Katsungs bogus threads shooting off his theories and calling them facts.

Here's a fact. Regardless of the current conditions in Iraq, the region is much safer without Saddam Hussein to be around gassing his neighbors or literally invading them. That's a fact. It's now up to Iraq on which path they want to choose for their nation. That war wasn't just to make Iraq a better place. It was to make the entire region a safer place. That was clearly achieved.

Disagree if you wish, but those who do disagree aren't looking at the big picture and only know what they want to hear. Saddam has a lengthy record of mass murder (by the hundred of thousands) and the use of WMD's. The fact he has used WMD's before is no secret, no conspiracy, it's a well known fact. Saddam himself never denied it.

The region is a much safer place now, Saddam was dangerous. Here we are 10 years later. Knowing Saddam, he would have done something else by now, no doubt about it. Whether it be another gas attack or another invasion (Kuwait for example), Saddam never went 10 years without doing a lot of damage. You know it, i know it.

Our troops did not fight in vain, they did succeed in making the region much safer. They deserve our respect.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:21 AM   #10
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Disagree if you wish, but those who do disagree aren't looking at the big picture and only know what they want to hear. Saddam has a lengthy record of mass murder (by the hundred of thousands) and the use of WMD's. The fact he has used WMD's before is no secret, no conspiracy, it's a well known fact. Saddam himself never denied it.

The region is a much safer place now, Saddam was dangerous. Here we are 10 years later. Knowing Saddam, he would have done something else by now, no doubt about it. Whether it be another gas attack or another invasion (Kuwait for example), Saddam never went 10 years without doing a lot of damage. You know it, i know it..
Borders and religion paint people as different and 'hate worthy'. Politics monopolize it. Let's get it right. Whatever organization or state with whatever religion can point out another (whether attacked or not) and paint them as evil.

Justified killing happens from there.

Sorry to be captain obvious.
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